Comments on: Contractors sort through tax increase hit /news/2010/01/27/measures-66-67-pass-bldgc/ Building and Construction News in Portland, Oregon and the Pacific Northwest Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:34:48 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.6 By: Who’s watching Measure 66 fallout? « Daily Journal of Commerce /news/2010/01/27/measures-66-67-pass-bldgc/#comment-11854 Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:34:48 +0000 /?p=46285#comment-11854 […] Who’s watching Measure 66 fallout? POSTED: Friday, February 12, 2010 at 03:39 PM PT BY: Stephanie Basalyga Tags: Measure 66, Measure 67, washington Ed Orcutt, a Washington state representative from Kalama, is warning his legislative colleagues that any tax increases could hinder the slight economic recovery his state is currently experiencing. And while he didn’t specifically point a finger to the south, his concerns should sound eerily reminiscent of those voiced by those who opposed raising Oregon’s corporate minimum tax. […]

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By: Matthew A /news/2010/01/27/measures-66-67-pass-bldgc/#comment-9886 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 23:01:20 +0000 /?p=46285#comment-9886 I think the point that many of the anti-66&67 people are failing to take into account is that the government employs people too. Do they think the state never lays people off? What about those jobs and those families that depend on an Oregon Treasury check each month?

To be fair this situation is six of one, half a dozen of the other. People are going to be affected if taxes go up and they’re going to be affected if taxes don’t go up. The simple matter is that when taxes go up some of that money is going to programs of which nearly all Oregonians can take advantage and not continuing to benefit the few and (sometimes) wealthy.

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By: Robert L. /news/2010/01/27/measures-66-67-pass-bldgc/#comment-9593 Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:39:24 +0000 /?p=46285#comment-9593 How was my statement of a fact “making light of them”? What the heck do I have to do with Nike? I think you read that into my comments, and slapped on the “elitist snob” label for good measure. Great work.

Let’s look at this “shoe string budget” in perspective. This is, at most 0.1%. Let’s say that your family brings home $50,000/year and you get hit with a 0.1% tax “all of a sudden”. That’s $50. You’re saying that $50 would push your family to ruin, or is incentive to pack up and move out of state? Really? In what business model does that make sense? My wife would slap me silly if I told her we were going to move out of state to avoid paying an additional 0.1% tax.

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By: Edward /news/2010/01/27/measures-66-67-pass-bldgc/#comment-9589 Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:51:08 +0000 /?p=46285#comment-9589 Some businesses, Robert, operate at a loss or a tiny margin and have managed to maintain their employees by taking out of the ownership’s pocket. They’ve borrowed, infused their own cash and other tricks to try to bridge some time until they can turn the corner on a profit. That corner just got extended. You can say boo hoo, I guess if these taxes could kill a business that it wasn’t very healthy. But that business, though struggling, was EMPLOYING people. The assumption seems to be that business owners are all rolling in dough, so if they lose some, big deal. That business that employed people also bought numerous products and services from other businesses in order to conduct their business. They cease doing this when they close.

Many, many small businesses are running on a shoe string and they just got hit with a tax on receipts, not profit! These businesses employ people who pay their bills and feed their families because of that employment. Those tight businesses have limited choices. Fire some people, Fire everyone and close or take on even greater debt and overhead in order to hope they can outlast these market conditions. Debt that increases the likelihood of future failure.

You really have to be a business moron not to understand that not all taxes on business can just be passed along to consumers as a defacto sort of sales tax. There will be many who are out of work and many more who move their business out of state after these initiatives. Making light of them as if they somehow are beneath you because they weren’t Nike to begin with defines elitist snob.

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By: Robert L. /news/2010/01/27/measures-66-67-pass-bldgc/#comment-9553 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 21:26:35 +0000 /?p=46285#comment-9553 Jim – I’m not too concerned with paying an extra 0.1% on my $1 cheeseburger. This additional tax amounts to, at most, one PENNY for every $10 I spend. Read the bill and do the math. If this is really going to break a business, it’s only because it was already broken.

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By: Jim /news/2010/01/27/measures-66-67-pass-bldgc/#comment-9521 Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:59:14 +0000 /?p=46285#comment-9521 Alex, I hope you understand the fundamentals of business. Higher taxes on business means higher costs for consumers. Sure, business will be paying for it in the short term. Consumers will be the ones paying higher prices to return their net profits.

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By: Alex 77 /news/2010/01/27/measures-66-67-pass-bldgc/#comment-9515 Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:16:56 +0000 /?p=46285#comment-9515 Finally, logic and reason chalk up a victory against greed and ideology. Maybe there is hope.

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By: El Lobo Nocho /news/2010/01/27/measures-66-67-pass-bldgc/#comment-9514 Wed, 27 Jan 2010 20:05:26 +0000 /?p=46285#comment-9514 Thankfully I went into exile 9 years ago to escape the dominion of a lumpen proletariat in their Subaru automobiles and Goretex jogging costumes. Nietzche said: WHERE THE RABBLE ALSO DRINK, ALL WELLS ARE POISONED. This state of mediocre minds can spend eternity selling each other cupcakes and living their lives sitting at green lights in a persisent vegetative State–Oreegon(e)

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