Comments on: Carpenters union accused of financial wrongdoing /news/2010/04/15/carpenters-local-union-accused-of-financial-wrongdoing/ Building and Construction News in Portland, Oregon and the Pacific Northwest Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:03:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.6 By: PADDLES Inc. /news/2010/04/15/carpenters-local-union-accused-of-financial-wrongdoing/#comment-27111 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 16:03:13 +0000 /?p=51821#comment-27111 I’ve been watching the Carpenters Union make back door deals with Contractors for years to deprive union members out of working hours at carpenters scale for interior trades work. The council has been hiring total idiots they can control for our BA’s. The members lost their voice to vote.As the lucky few who are working for scale gets smaller and the illegal immigrants are promoted more on the works sites increase still nothing has changed in the us carpenters desire to take a stand together in fear of being blacked balled. The carpenters are a bunch of whining girls accepting what is given to them, My advice is for the members to organize outside of the union, The members are the driving force not the staff members getting fat at the cost to our future.

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By: Paul E. Richter /news/2010/04/15/carpenters-local-union-accused-of-financial-wrongdoing/#comment-24352 Sat, 22 May 2010 04:53:53 +0000 /?p=51821#comment-24352 Brothers and Sisters!
This is NOT the place to have this discussion. What needs to be public will be made public, when ALL the facts are in.
All members of Local 247 will have a chance to speak at the UBC International’s hearing.
Please save your comments for inside our house not out in the yard.
For information on the hearing please contact your representatives.
I am shocked at what I have read.
Think before you write.
Fraternatly,
Paul E. Richter
Proud Union Carpenter

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By: Darrell Bagley /news/2010/04/15/carpenters-local-union-accused-of-financial-wrongdoing/#comment-20085 Wed, 21 Apr 2010 07:05:44 +0000 /?p=51821#comment-20085 Time to cut the crap and stop the bickering,our focuse is to be ready for upand coming negotiations because were supposed to be a leader in organizing were the caprpenter’s and from what im reading were looking like a joke… Time to put away our diffrences and get back to buissness and all you crybabies winning about this internal crap need to meet in the parking lot and settel this mono emono,cuz the rest of us are realy tired of your crying.now ackt like men and get to it so we can all stop looking like ideots at the barganning table.
Darrell Bagley local 247.

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By: Donny1020 /news/2010/04/15/carpenters-local-union-accused-of-financial-wrongdoing/#comment-20030 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:20:00 +0000 /?p=51821#comment-20030 Gene Lawhorn- and now you have been co-opted by the Council. I don’t know if it is worse that you are doing this just to get in good with the boys or that you don’t see how they are manipulating you.

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By: Aaron Spencer /news/2010/04/15/carpenters-local-union-accused-of-financial-wrongdoing/#comment-19889 Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:41:06 +0000 /?p=51821#comment-19889 Just a note to you all:

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By: Gene Lawhorn /news/2010/04/15/carpenters-local-union-accused-of-financial-wrongdoing/#comment-19710 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 19:46:12 +0000 /?p=51821#comment-19710 To Mike Couch: You were there and you did nothing and except what your puppet master Savage told you to do. Heres a challenge Mike, rebut everything I have said. I dare you to prove me wrong. Tell us what you did, anything beside set on your ass silently and let the status quo be maintained. You are a classic follower!

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By: Mike Couch /news/2010/04/15/carpenters-local-union-accused-of-financial-wrongdoing/#comment-19691 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 17:16:10 +0000 /?p=51821#comment-19691 Gene, you’re the granddaddy of all spin doctors! Quite impressive.

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By: Gene Lawhorn /news/2010/04/15/carpenters-local-union-accused-of-financial-wrongdoing/#comment-19610 Sat, 17 Apr 2010 05:28:24 +0000 /?p=51821#comment-19610 In response to Donny 1020: What a load of krap. Pete Savage was fired from the council for his back door deals while lobbying in Salem for a bill that would chip away at Prevailing Wage. He did this in direct opposition to the official political direction of the Delegates of the Council. Savage would like everyone to think he was fired because he was a threat, but he was no threat he was the inside man. He had it made,but he got too arrogant. Starting playing footsie with Bob Shipwreck and made a deal with him on HB 2430.
As far as being elected against the wishes of the PNWRCC, they never once sent the Local a letter telling us who to vote for or against. As far as your charges that Rob Van Alstyne trumped up these charges is absolutely absurd.
I take responsibility for being one of the people who called for the UBC International to investigate the mismanagement of the Local funds. None of the E Board were doing their job in demanding financial accountability. I know I was there, I was asking for financial records, and being threatened with hostile work environment. Pete Savage did everything in his power to shield the Office manager from accountability. He bullied the Financial Secretary, and others who sought to gain accountability. This whole debacle is largely is fault.
The UBC International in this case has a very valid reason to perform the action they have taken. For those who know me know that form me to say that is a strong statement. Because I stand for rank-n-file union democracy, and have worked harder than anyone in our local on those issues. I co-authored the free speech resolution that was so controversial. I have butted heads with the UBC bureaucracy many times on many different issues. But the fact is our Local was being ripped off, and NONE of the trustees,or the treasurer were doing their jobs. These are the facts.
So Van Alstyne had nothing to do with this, this was a crises caused by the lack of trustee over-site, and the petty potentate holding their puppet strings.

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By: Ted Doherty /news/2010/04/15/carpenters-local-union-accused-of-financial-wrongdoing/#comment-19577 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:13:31 +0000 /?p=51821#comment-19577 Anybody see a Pattern Here?

It’s called “Raceketeering”….criminal Enterprise on a National Scale. The real Investigation should center on the ongoing & continued fraudulent operations of the International UBCJA..

The International has unlawfully resticted the members right to VOTE, by the filing of fraudulent lawsuits engineered to do an end run around the NLRA, NLRB regulations as well as multiple Constitutional Rights guaranteeing same. Ref: Harrington v. Chao First Circuit, wherein, NERCC filed bogus lawsuits by Senior Level Executives claiming to be Rank & File Members & by doing so, fraudulently induced the Secretary of Labor to push the case on the Internationals behalf.

This case set the stage for the Internartional & Regional Councilsto impose the Mobility Clauses unto all the contracts nationwide & therein cede control to the Employers, which effectively ended any & all Local Control of every UBC Local in the Nation.

Moreover, it removed Local Elections of Business Agents by the members, who now exist in a system wherein all BA’s are appointed by the Councils EST’s who are hand-picked lackeys, men known to be out for themselves only & no one else.

The rampant fraud & corruption that we have endured for 15-years under McCarrons leadership, combined with the Raping of Members Pension, Annuity & Health & Welfare Funds should be the subject of Grand Jury probes & indictments of key International Officers & Regional Council Officers; and, said charges should be pursued by the new Secretary of Labor (Hilda Solis) and the US Attorney Generals Office & US Dept. of Justice.

Said Fraud has cost UBC members Nationwide Billions of Dollars in losses & theft from said funds, and has lined the pockets of our corrupt Officials, who are apparently in bed with the US Department of Labor. Payoffs. Bribes, Kickbacks, Mail Fraud, Wire Fraud are only the beginning of charges that should be brought. Money Laundering, Offshore Accounts (untaxed) & many, many other charges can & should be added to this list.

Nothing has changed with the Unions & the DOL, DOJ & U.S. Department of Justice have all collectively failed miserably at their jobs & theri sworn duties to protect the Rights of Employees…working men & woman within the United Brotherhood of Carpenters & Joiners of America.

The UBC Constitution is Illegal, its Bylaws are Illegal & it’s mobility clauses are Illegal & yet – our Officals are still attempting Appeals, refusing to comply with Decisions & Orders for the NLRB Board, all the while, the General Counsel for the NLRB looks the other way. That alone, is cause for dis-barring all Attorneys from the Practice of Law.

For all youo UBC Officials living the high life in your Do-Nothing Sell-out The Men jobs you now hold….better be careful, better Pension out & get lost, because we’re coming to get ya & your all going down.

For all you Portland men & woman getting screwed by the UBC, go to local157blogspotcom& local370voicecom, read up, catch up, get up to speed & get moving hunting the bastards down & forcing them from office.

This needs to go viral within the UBC, all 50 states (not 57 states as the Muslim Messiah has stated…the Articulate One, the alleged Constitutional Scholar – please) and Canada as well.

ATTENTION HILDA SOLIS – DO YOUR DAMN JOB, HAVE YOUR GENERAL COUNSEL INVESTIGATE THE UBC INTERNATIONAL, GET THE US DOJ & US AG INTO THIS AS WELL….GOD KNOWS YOUR OVERPAID, NOW IT’S TIME TO EARN IT & RESTORE INTEGRITY TO A CLASS OF WORKERS, NATIONWIDE, AS 600,000 OF US HAVE SUFFERED FOR 15 YEARS UNDER THE GESTAPO REGIME OF UBC PRESIDENT DOUGGIE MCCARRON!!

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By: Charles Lezette /news/2010/04/15/carpenters-local-union-accused-of-financial-wrongdoing/#comment-19575 Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:31:56 +0000 /?p=51821#comment-19575

Empire State Regional Council Of Carpenters Soon to Be Under Trusteeship…

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Empire State Regional Council Of Carpenters

Carpenters Local 370 Albany, NY

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