Comments on: Vinyl windows cause drama for Northwest Portland condos /news/2011/12/07/vinyl-windows-cause-drama-for-northwest-portland-condos/ Building and Construction News in Portland, Oregon and the Pacific Northwest Wed, 11 Jan 2012 16:10:56 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.6 By: J Larsen /news/2011/12/07/vinyl-windows-cause-drama-for-northwest-portland-condos/#comment-68792 Wed, 11 Jan 2012 16:10:56 +0000 /news/2011/12/07/vinyl-windows-cause-drama-for-northwest-portland-condos/#comment-68792 The contractor who sold them the windows…dont they have expertise in the area of historic preservation? If I had sold vinyl windows in our historic district, I would be eating alot of vinyl windows.

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By: pergy white /news/2011/12/07/vinyl-windows-cause-drama-for-northwest-portland-condos/#comment-68503 Sat, 17 Dec 2011 09:07:12 +0000 /news/2011/12/07/vinyl-windows-cause-drama-for-northwest-portland-condos/#comment-68503 Im sure the window contractors knew, im sure the consultant knew. you would think the city knew too. but then again, its always something.

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By: Chris Osborn /news/2011/12/07/vinyl-windows-cause-drama-for-northwest-portland-condos/#comment-68470 Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:39:30 +0000 /news/2011/12/07/vinyl-windows-cause-drama-for-northwest-portland-condos/#comment-68470 How about single glazed wood windows with lead based paint on both sides and plenty of asbestos laced products on int. & ext. of windows and a hand-dug twelve hole privy no less than 50 feet from the wellhead? If penicillin were available during the civil war, would it have ben used? Most likely not if any City of Portland Bureau was involved unless the folks benefited for the penicillin could pay off the regulator thugs.

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By: Shane /news/2011/12/07/vinyl-windows-cause-drama-for-northwest-portland-condos/#comment-68464 Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:16:56 +0000 /news/2011/12/07/vinyl-windows-cause-drama-for-northwest-portland-condos/#comment-68464 Ed, you typically cannot paint vinyl windows, it will not adhere well.

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By: Ed Dean /news/2011/12/07/vinyl-windows-cause-drama-for-northwest-portland-condos/#comment-68463 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:22:11 +0000 /news/2011/12/07/vinyl-windows-cause-drama-for-northwest-portland-condos/#comment-68463 Can they not be painted???

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By: dave harris /news/2011/12/07/vinyl-windows-cause-drama-for-northwest-portland-condos/#comment-68460 Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:41:58 +0000 /news/2011/12/07/vinyl-windows-cause-drama-for-northwest-portland-condos/#comment-68460 Or the condo owners could pony up an extra $35 per month to pay the fine and leave it as is.

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By: Rick Langel /news/2011/12/07/vinyl-windows-cause-drama-for-northwest-portland-condos/#comment-68447 Thu, 08 Dec 2011 20:47:54 +0000 /news/2011/12/07/vinyl-windows-cause-drama-for-northwest-portland-condos/#comment-68447 As the owner of a home on the historic list I can say I had an excellent experience with Lifetime Windows in Portland. They knew in advance not just the restrictions but also a host of affordable options for us. Their work was exceptional and the windows they installed for us match the historic flavor beautifully. They can help and I highly recommend them…

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By: Larisa Zimmerman /news/2011/12/07/vinyl-windows-cause-drama-for-northwest-portland-condos/#comment-68446 Thu, 08 Dec 2011 19:27:44 +0000 /news/2011/12/07/vinyl-windows-cause-drama-for-northwest-portland-condos/#comment-68446 Vinyl windows are extremely toxic to the environment to manufacture, and don’t have the longevity of a vintage wood window. The existing windows on the building could undoubtedly have been restored to their original working order for far less than $300,000. Too bad they are most likely now in a landfill somewhere, not doing anyone any good.

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By: Hank /news/2011/12/07/vinyl-windows-cause-drama-for-northwest-portland-condos/#comment-68445 Thu, 08 Dec 2011 19:16:16 +0000 /news/2011/12/07/vinyl-windows-cause-drama-for-northwest-portland-condos/#comment-68445 The lack of due diligence is no excuse here for the developer. I wouldn’t be surprised if they know the risk and gambled on not getting sanctioned. A competent architect and window installer should have both the raised the issue. I agree with Ono, whether it was ignorance or profit motive, this can’t be the only shortcut taken in this project.

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By: Peggy Moretti /news/2011/12/07/vinyl-windows-cause-drama-for-northwest-portland-condos/#comment-68444 Thu, 08 Dec 2011 19:06:57 +0000 /news/2011/12/07/vinyl-windows-cause-drama-for-northwest-portland-condos/#comment-68444 What’s really unfortunate is that the original windows were probably repairable. We frequently hear assumptions that historic windows need to be replaced because they’re covered in layers of paint or have some moisture damage. But most of the time they could be repaired for FAR less cost than replacement. And energy efficiency is gained very nicely through sealing/caulking and the addition of storm windows.
The data on the long-term durability of vinyl windows shows they rarely last more than a dozen years and don’t deliver the energy pay-back claimed. Also they are highly energy-consumptive to manufacture.
The HPLO applauds the city for upholding its ordinance. It stretches credibility to believe the developer didn’t know about it.

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